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hawkfan11
05-31-2011, 11:52 AM
We are looking to upgrade boats soon. We have decided on the Formula but we can't decide between the 382 and 353. I'm looking for any opinions from anyone that has knowledge about them. I am more curious about the difference in the rides. Is there a huge difference on a busy weekend? We only boat at LOTO. I know the 353 will perform better, but the wife is getting sick of being beat to death in the 29ft boat we currently have.

Thanks for the advice.

Griff
05-31-2011, 12:06 PM
The 382 is quite a bit heavier and will ride much better in the real rough water. With equal power the 353 is about 6-8 mph faster.

joey
05-31-2011, 12:14 PM
You're going to get a broad spectrum on opinions because of the obvious, but here's "MINE".

When I bought my 353 several years ago they had both sizes for me to look and drive and I did, price had no bearing on my decision.

As you can see I bought the 353, because "I" thought it performed better and that's what I wanted then, now I have Grandkids and wish I had a gen/air, so it kind of depends what your looking for.

They told me the hulls are almost identical and mostly you're getting 3' of cabin and engine room space, the cockpits are almost the same.

Either way you can't go wrong with any model Formula, I've had two Fastech, a 312 and the 353 I have now and loved both of them, let us know what you get, good luck.

Went and pulled my Formula spec book out and checked the dry weights and the 353 is about 8,600 and the 382 is 10,450 lbs, if you go with the 382 definitely go with some bigger power if you can.

RedBud
05-31-2011, 01:31 PM
A good friend has a 382 with hp500's. It carries the bow a little too high to me, but otherwise rides very nice in the sloop. Runs low to mid 70's.

hawkfan11
05-31-2011, 06:19 PM
Joey

Thanks for the info. I know I will get all sorts of opinions, but that is really what I am looking for. I want to know what everyone thinks the pluses and negatives are of each.

I would like to be able to stay in the mid 70's speed wise, but the smooth ride is most important for the other half and keeping her happy with my toys is half the battle.

joey
05-31-2011, 06:55 PM
Joey

Thanks for the info. I know I will get all sorts of opinions, but that is really what I am looking for. I want to know what everyone thinks the pluses and negatives are of each.

I would like to be able to stay in the mid 70's speed wise, but the smooth ride is most important for the other half and keeping her happy with my toys is half the battle.

You're welcome, I was hoping Fastech from the site would chime in, he has a 353 also.

Couple of pics of mine.

eddie
05-31-2011, 07:28 PM
Give George at Anchor Marine a call, he's got a few 353's in stock looking for new owners.

BigDaddy
06-01-2011, 01:06 AM
I loved our 353, we did 5 summers with it at LOTO. The performance in the 353 vs 382 was noticably better, but for comfort - the 382 at LOTO is the way to go. As has been stated, the dry weight of the 382 make it cut thru and ride better in the rough stuff. Cabin and sunpad are bigger and the cockpit is just slightly larger too. You will need pretty good power to push a 382 to the mid 70's consistently. You can get low 70's all day, but in my experience HP500/500EFI (stock) will only do mid 70's on good days with the right props.

GVL
06-01-2011, 12:46 PM
I 've sold alot of each and have lots of hours behind the wheel in both during my Glencove days. If your looking for some creature comforts I believe it was 05 when they offered gen/air in the 353, but its impossible to get to for any service. The 382 is right in front of the motors and easily serviced. If your gonna cove out alot, the 382 doesn't have an anchor locker. Like BD said, its not all in the bow, just feels like it while getting on plane. Both boats run a little high in the bow, but easily fixed with minimal tab. With 502s or 496s the speedo will tell you 75 in the 353, 65 in the 382. 500s in a 353 will see 80+ on gps, low 70s in the 382. WATCH out for a 353 sport, they are a stripped down version of the standard set up, doesn't even have hydraulic steering. Good luck with your search, they are great boats!!!!

rhunter113
06-01-2011, 02:54 PM
My wife would like to add a vote for the 382. The weight at the LOTO makes a huge difference for a smooth ride on a weekend running the main channel from GG arm to Gravois arm. Speed is not "our" :roll: concern, but having an enjoyable ride.

h2oboy
06-01-2011, 09:26 PM
you can always add horsepower to the 382, but not so easy adding 3' to the 353.

$HREDDER
06-01-2011, 10:53 PM
We picked up a 382 about 3 weeks ago, I was impressed with the ride on the main channel Sat & Sun last weekend.

36Tango
06-01-2011, 11:04 PM
I have owned neither, but it seems like between the weight and the additional length to straddle more waves, the 382 would be the way to go, let alone the better access to the engines/generator. The 6 or 8 mph would not bother me at all, as it would not be often that I would firewall it anyway. As H20Boy said you can add more power easier than adding a few feet. For most, keeping the Mrs. happy is VERY important!

joey
06-02-2011, 08:33 AM
We picked up a 382 about 3 weeks ago, I was impressed with the ride on the main channel Sat & Sun last weekend.

Yes, another Formula guy. [smilie=042.gif]

Fastech
06-02-2011, 12:18 PM
[QUOTE=joey;493786]You're welcome, I was hoping Fastech from the site would chime in, he has a 353 also.

I'm a little slow getting Back to the site Joey.[smilie=crazy]

After owning a 27 ft Fastech and moving up to a 353 there of course was a huge difference. My take and understanding on the two boats are this. The 353 runs across the water like the sports car of the Fastech line, they get up on plane quickly with no tabs, they turn and and handle awesome. As for the 382 they seem to have a much wider and taller bow, a little more room inside, but unless you have huge power they seem to be sluggish. Having a boat with an extra 3ft and give or take 1200 lbs, is certainly going to give you a better ride! But that being said, after running the Poker Run last year in our 27, my wife told me to find a larger boat. The 353 being as agile as it is makes driving the heavy slop easy, I too want my wife comfortable, she loves the 353 and because she is happy I'm happy because she shows me a lot of.......[smilie=boobeyes]
To sum it up I'm sure you will get a great ride out of either boat, Formula makes an awesome boat. My choice was the 353 and I would make that same choice again. If I were to go larger it would be for a different reason [smilie=crazy]. To get a better ride you will probably have to look at a cruiser. Good Luck and happy shopping, its always fun buying a new boat. ( By the way mine runs 72 on the GPS with stock 502's not 65, my speedo shows almost 80. I need different props I am redlining at 3/4 throttle.) Midwest Boat Brokerage has a 2001 353 with 500's, give it a look.

Fastech
06-02-2011, 12:25 PM
We picked up a 382 about 3 weeks ago, I was impressed with the ride on the main channel Sat & Sun last weekend.

Congrat's on the new Formula, :) Pic's?

joey
06-02-2011, 12:35 PM
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I thought you were taking the Summer off for a minute, looked for you last weekend on the water and at Fish and Bear Bottoms to no avail, ran into some MWBP people at BB and had some beers, I'll keep watching. [smilie=042.gif]

Fastech
06-02-2011, 12:54 PM
WOW.....Crazy good weekend, we had our grandchildren with us this weekend which changed our plans somewhat. We had an extended weekend, and then yesterday I had to play golf...you know those priorities.:oops: I missed meeting up with all of you guy's, but will be down in a couple of weeks, for a couple of weeks and will make a point to get together.

$HREDDER
06-02-2011, 01:32 PM
Here is the only pic I have from Harbor Hop.

joey
06-02-2011, 01:59 PM
Here is the only pic I have from Harbor Hop.

Gotta love the Formula lines, looks great, congrats.

Reggie
06-02-2011, 03:47 PM
My two cents worth, bigger is usually better at LOTO, heavier, longer, etc... it will take the slop better.

Hauling Hustler
06-02-2011, 05:17 PM
Thanks Eddie but we have 4 382's for sale and currently no 353's. I personnally owned a 353 for quite a few years and had no trouble at LOTO or Lake Michigan. Great rough water boat. The 382 is a little smoother in the real snotty stuff but never had a issue with the 353. The 353 runs a bit flatter and the 382 will carry the nose a little more. I used to work at a Formula dealer and have alot of seat time in both. 353 More speed due to its lighter, but easier to tow and load and unloading on the trailer by myself was no problem. 382 more options ie air and gen,need a larger truck to tow and would always look for a hand loading or unloading on the trailer. Either way there both great boats. Call me or stop by and Joe or I will be happy to take you out for a ride so you can see for your self. we currently have 4 model year 382's available a 1998,1999,2000,2004. All are from 70 to 165k in price. all four have trailers also we have a lift set up for a 382 available soon. I look forward to hearing from you soon.

George
573-552-8727 or PM me.
anchorperformancesales@hotmail.com