Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123
Results 31 to 39 of 39

Thread: Casino

  1. #31
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    Lick Branch Cove,
    My Ride
    1991 Fountain Fever
    Posts
    38
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Justfishing View Post
    I dont really like the idea. I come to the lake to get away from the city and things like casinos and chain restaurants.

    There wil not be a big influx of tax dollars, that isa big myth.

    It will drive a lot of small businesses under those that add to the unique of the lake.

    You will see an increase in embezzlement at small businesses. Most times the business will fail because of ittaking down the jobs of others. It litterally takes food off the table and clothes off kids backs. I have seen all of this. Casinos take more than they give.
    That`s a load of crap.. I live in Boonville and the Casino has been nothing but positive. Huge tax benefit to our city, zero crime influx. Was there a big influx of business to the small businesses in the area? No.. But it sure as hell didn't hurt business either. I was on the original committee that investigated the casinos and all the anti-gaming rhetoric was completely unfounded. At least quote something factual....

  2. #32
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Osage Beach, MO - 18MM
    My Ride
    Formula 336 SR1
    Age
    51
    Posts
    609
    Post Thanks / Like
    I am originally from Quincy, IL, a town of about 40K along the Mississippi River in western IL. It had major debates about putting in a casino along the riverfront back in the 1990's. There was a lot of resistance from old time locals, religious groups and many businesses (who saw it as a threat) so ultimately they passed on pursuing a license and it was given to a different city in eastern IL - note, Quincy would have easily been granted a license. Mind you, Quincy is an island in the Midwest - largest city 100 miles in any direction and had always been the center of commerce in it's region. It has a long and natural riverfront with a huge natural bay so there was massive potential to transform the river/bay front from failing industrial plants to commercial/retail. After Quincy took a pass a group in northeast MO (across the river from Quincy) saw the potential in the region so pursued a license for La Grange, MO - a town of less than 1K along the Mississippi River about 15 miles to the north. It didn't take long for their casino to start bringing in huge taxes for the city which they wisely reinvested back into their infrastructure. Of course a lot of their customers came from Quincy and the immediate area. Since then, Quincy has continued to shed manufacturing jobs, retail is struggling (the big mall is about to close up), the river/bayfront area has rapidly declined - except for a really nice park that floods every other year, and the City of Quincy is struggling financially to keep up with loss of sales tax revenue and exploding pension payments to retired workers. To confront this they have cut services (especially fire department) and raised taxes. Meanwhile, podunk La Grange continues to rake in the money and reinvest in their community....My point is don't think that what's working now will continue to work in the future. Gambling is entertainment and there is demand for it. At some point it might fade too. Sure some will abuse it and lose their house payment but if they're that weak, they'll likely lose it doing something else stupid anyway. The LOTO area is deeply dependent on tourism and retail. If you haven't noticed, retail ain't doing so great these days and the local cities are feeling it. Thankfully tourism is still strong but we all know that goes in cycles too - see 1981 and 2009 for reference. And thankfully fuel prices remain low so we can all afford nice boats with more power run by dead dinosaurs but maybe we'll figure out a way to have them run 75 mph on electric and solar for hours at a time....Times change and technology is forcing change in faster cycles lately. Gambling isn't the only answer to the future at LOTO but it sure could help fill the void when we need it.....

  3. #33
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    Cedar Rapids, Iowa- 1MM Grand Glaize
    My Ride
    Formula 370SS
    Age
    56
    Posts
    9,477
    Post Thanks / Like
    All great points boater34!

  4. #34
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    St. Louis/26mm
    My Ride
    24 ft Four Winns
    Posts
    806
    Post Thanks / Like
    As a boater that comes to the lake for......the lake. I am planning my retirement split between the lake and little bit of wandering. The political machine is alive and well at the lake just like every other town.

    Look at the power struggles around the dam renovations, open containers, parking in front of my business vs yours etc.

    Look at the debacle of the 54 by-pass .......how many mom & pops businesses died with that?

    Look at all the money the lottery puts back into education like they promised? wait whut?

    BUT like Boater said above Gambling is entertainment - would it be sustainable at the lake??? I go to the casino's to people watch more than anything. AND the people that would waste their paychecks have always been doing that, horsetracks, lottery, now the illegal gas station slots, keno, pull tabs, on-line betting etc.

    I think a smaller casino venue at the lake would make it........but NIMBY!

    And as a person that once lost a job because I was "voted off the island" by elected officials, I always thought, some day I am going to run for an elected board so I can mess with others, until someone that was in government at the lake said......don't run for a board down here - if someone disagrees with you, they burn your house down.


    BUT I still love the lake - spent the weekend playing in the yard, and I am going back this week.

    Ghost land baron

  5. #35
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    glaize arm,
    Posts
    2,634
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by THE GHOST View Post
    As a boater that comes to the lake for......the lake. I am planning my retirement split between the lake and little bit of wandering. The political machine is alive and well at the lake just like every other town.

    Look at the power struggles around the dam renovations, open containers, parking in front of my business vs yours etc.

    Look at the debacle of the 54 by-pass .......how many mom & pops businesses died with that?

    Look at all the money the lottery puts back into education like they promised? wait whut?

    BUT like Boater said above Gambling is entertainment - would it be sustainable at the lake??? I go to the casino's to people watch more than anything. AND the people that would waste their paychecks have always been doing that, horsetracks, lottery, now the illegal gas station slots, keno, pull tabs, on-line betting etc.

    I think a smaller casino venue at the lake would make it........but NIMBY!

    And as a person that once lost a job because I was "voted off the island" by elected officials, I always thought, some day I am going to run for an elected board so I can mess with others, until someone that was in government at the lake said......don't run for a board down here - if someone disagrees with you, they burn your house down.


    BUT I still love the lake - spent the weekend playing in the yard, and I am going back this week.

    Ghost land baron
    I can't believe people still complain about the expressway, I can not think of one good business that went out because of expressway. One of the options for a by pass that was considered was to take 54 at eldon over to brumley then to south of camdenton, so osage beach would now be really plugged with traffic during the summer

  6. #36
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    St. Louis/26mm
    My Ride
    24 ft Four Winns
    Posts
    806
    Post Thanks / Like
    When I drive by something I am more apt to stop - if I am on a highway I don't see it. Maybe I don't drive it enough but it seems the expressway should be an option - not the direct route.

  7. #37
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Schaumburg, IL/ Supercat Cove :)
    My Ride
    New to me Cruiser & Friends
    Age
    53
    Posts
    4,268
    Post Thanks / Like
    I was looking for some info in old threads and stumbled upon this ... lol
    Attached Images Attached Images
    It's just a damn shame that common sense just isn't common. - Got 4-Play?

  8. #38
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Papillion, NE
    My Ride
    32 Active Thunder
    Age
    52
    Posts
    6,636
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by THE GHOST View Post
    When I drive by something I am more apt to stop - if I am on a highway I don't see it. Maybe I don't drive it enough but it seems the expressway should be an option - not the direct route.
    The new highway 54 is an option and not the only direct route. Its just the fastest. Anybody can still drive the old 54/Osage Beach Parkway.
    I know if I'm driving, I'm going somewhere specific or to certain places that might have what I'm looking for. I'll never be driving somewhere and then on a whim just stop somewhere else because I see it on the road.

  9. #39
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    LOTO 9MM Niangua and Marco Island Fl
    My Ride
    Intrepid, Formula, Cigarette
    Age
    55
    Posts
    3,078
    Post Thanks / Like
    I say bring on the casino, it will be a great addition to the area.

    For those that bemoan the plague of bankruptcy, drug use, crime, and embezzlement, we already have those without a casino in spades. If you don't gamble, don't go.
    Never liked those loud obnoxious boats, until I bought one of my own.

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
MWBP Sponsors









Yellow Pages